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Message From:
ebay_incompetentce_exposed_again
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1/16/2008 8:59:28 PM
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this sweet auction is at Current bid: US $99,999,999.00 |
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Message From:
BigE
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11/9/2007 2:30:10 AM
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So farnkos72 thinks he can refuse anybody the right to service? RIGHT. Try refusing a group of blacks and see what happens...
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Message From:
Whttlmn
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11/8/2007 2:40:18 PM
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I will say this has definitely opened my eyes to E-bay, I did go and read their statement as Eric suggested. I have bartered on e-bay but never again will I do buisness with them. I am in the process now of closing all accounts. As for the NamMP comment, well it just goes to show you the kind of idiots in the world. Probably works for E-bay. As for the Liberal that owns guns, well that in it's self is a scary thought. I didn't think they were allowed to have guns, might shoot their toes off. Praise God for the Second Ammendment. Live Free and Be Free....We live in the greatest country in the World and we need to stand up more for it. ... |
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Message From:
gunnerrunner45
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10/23/2007 4:57:18 PM
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i am done with ebay as well. they think they are so big that they can afford to lose a little business from guys like me. we all should stand fast and boycott them. all gun owners need to unite to keep gun grabbers out of our gov't . politicians when taking the oath of office swear to uphold the constitution.-once some are in they they only want to uphold the parts they like and the hell with the rest.those that violate their oath need to be removed from office . good bye most democrats ! |
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Message From:
cyberman
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10/23/2007 12:57:08 PM
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I'm not a gun owner (And, being mentally ill & having suffered from depression, I probably never will be.), but I DO support the Second Amendment & other people's rights to buy, own, & carry any type of guns that they may wish. Anyways, I know I might make some people mad on here by saying this, but sadly, Ebay's the only place I can get hard-to-find parts for my guitar, so for me, they're a necessary evil (Like Wal-Mart.) Granted, I know my cow-towing to Ebay is not gonna sit very well w/ some people on this here board, but like I said, they're the only place which sells guitar parts I can't find anywhere else (Like a Big Block Sustain Block for a Floyd Rose Tremolo, for those of you on here who're fellow guitarists, as well as gun owners.). Hate me if you must, but believe me, I sympathize w/ you guys & gals, and don't like Ebay's stand on this issue any more than you do. Well, that's all for now. Laters! |
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Message From:
grabber
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10/23/2007 6:21:40 AM
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I will not do business with ebay again after reading this article. Ebay sucks!!! |
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Message From:
Geno Ferri
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10/22/2007 4:10:35 AM
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I agree, Ebay is un-American in its policies. More should be publicized abouts Ebays activities as I just now found out when I read the article on Tgs homepage.
Pierre Omidyar go back to France and live. Too many foreigners in this country are trying to change the AMerican Way. |
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Message From:
JoeJgreen
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10/20/2007 9:31:02 PM
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In his statement the ebay spokesperson said "it is the right thing to do" I'm sure they ran the numbers and said ok we will loose so much $$ and they said ok so what. The point is.. they could care less about our rights. They are bleeding heart liberals that already have disallowed gun sales and this is another step toward one of their feel good no brain goals. They are so big the $$ doesn't matter to them. |
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Message From:
NamMP
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9/29/2007 8:46:14 PM
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Is the same person ignorant person posting these messages? It has to be! I know that our school systems are bad, but are they so bad that people don't or can't spell properly? As for ebay, "...what ever..." If you don't like the policy don't do the business. |
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Message From:
RBH
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9/18/2007 12:37:32 PM
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I notified ebay that I would no longer be part of there bs and would go direct to internet for buys and skip them. I also told them what's next "cars". If some robs a bank with a car, runs over someone, speeds. They should take all cars off ebay and this could go for all products so why pick on guns. |
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Message From:
Joe
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9/13/2007 12:05:30 AM
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guess metal will be outlawed before long as it could have been used to make a firearm or bullet. drunks kill people why don't they restrict buying cars. what's next??
its their site and they can do what they want with it, i no longer will be a member. (They can take it and shove their site.) i have bough lots of reloading brass on e-bay.
have found other sites for brass. I hiope e-bay loses big time. I would not buy anything from them even if they recalled their idotic announcement.
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Message From:
airbear
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8/29/2007 8:35:08 AM
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Sorry bunch of conformists. Everyone needs to take action against this kind of crap. Never again will I use eBay! |
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Message From:
Jeep
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8/26/2007 4:54:56 AM
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It's kind of funny how eBay, a California based company, has been forcing California based laws on the rest ot the nation (anyone remember their 10rd mag limit). Their banning of all things gun related comes as no real surprise. All that they are proving is the golden rule - he who has the gold, makes the rules. I don't sell on eBay anymore or accept PayPal (eBay owned) becuase all they do is jack up the fees. For those of us that own guns, just remember, the is Gunbroker, AuctionArms & GunsAmerica. Those are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. |
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Message From:
hammersmith
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8/25/2007 11:47:54 PM
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I don't understand all the ebay hate. They don't want to sell guns? Fine. This is the United States...individuals and businesses are free to do as they please. You don't like it? Don't use ebay. That's your choice - but you can't tell them what to sell and not sell. As a liberal AND a multi-gun owner (yes, try getting that through your head) some of the responses to this post are ridiculous. The generalizations are completely out of hand - being liberal is far more than the single issue of gun control, just as being conservative is more than anti-gay or anti-immigration. Use your heads people, stop painting the world in black and white. |
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Message From:
EBAY=LAME
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8/23/2007 5:43:33 PM
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what ebays doing is annoing and retarded but i dont know why every1 is so pissed. ebays not the federal government, they cant do gun control so how are they violating the 2nd amendment? there not keeping any1 from getting gunz there just saying they dont wanna sell them anymore. does that make a supermarket like safeway anti-2nd amendment just becuz they dont sell gunz? ebay never sold guns just gun parts and ive bought some gun stuff from them b4 i jsut wont anymore. ebay is still lame tho. |
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Message From:
Rob in Gainesville
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8/22/2007 12:49:26 PM
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So wait, I'm confused...how is that ebay will pull any item that allows a firearm to be fired yet they allow open sales of hard liquor? If you don't believe me, look it up some time. Their sellers CLAIM they are selling the bottles as collector's items and not for their content. Huh? That's the equivalent of me selling a loaded pistol for the bullets contained therein. I fully understand that ebay is a non-government entity and can decide to pull any item from their auction, but honestly, do not claim to pull certain items for the safety of the American public. If you are afraid of or ambivalent to firearms, have the courage to say so. It's your right. To say you're pulling firearm-related items to protect the common good is an insult. Good luck ebay, you're going to need it. |
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Message From:
VoiceOfReason
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8/22/2007 3:38:41 AM
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It's funny how some of you are so quick to jump on what you claim is eBay trampling your rights, by deciding not to sell anyone gun parts, yet you see no problem with forgetting that business owners have rights too.
As for me, I couldn't care less if eBay stops selling gun parts. I'll still shop there, just not for gun components. EBay is too good a marketplace/system to give up over something trivial like this. |
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Message From:
VoiceOfReason
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8/22/2007 3:38:02 AM
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I feel like this comment board is, almost without exception, one long line of knee-jerk responses. (Which, incidentally, one might say is no different from eBay's response) I have been a customer of TGS on several occasions, I am on their mailing list, and I am an NRA member, but I find this entire topic extremely reactionary. Why all the vitriol, if none of you apparently shop on eBay already?? (Or so you claim.) Why keep using them if they have "P...ed [you] off so many times"?
EBay is a business in the United States of America. You have a reasonable right to buy guns in this country, but there's no law that says eBay has to sell them to you. Guess what? You do not own or run eBay. It's a private entity. They want to make a decision, it's their right. Don't buy gun parts from eBay anymore. Big deal. It's their loss. Take your business somewhere else. But stop whining, all of you, and get over it. |
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Message From:
pepperoni
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8/21/2007 11:42:45 AM
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293899,00.html
Come on eBay! Let's stop playing polictics with your Customers & the American People.
If you were that concerned with what these so-called trumped up rationale. Why according to the foxnews story that you continue to allow these lead contained toys to be sold to our Mothers, our Babies, and our Children. This an other lead containing articles have the potential of being deadly.
What about the glass ware that is being sold. That can be broken and used as deadly weapons. Also electrical equipment can be used to electrocute our Senior Citizens & others? Laboratory glassware can be used in the process of making explosives. Metal piping & Bats as clubs. The list is endless!! What kind of a trick is this??
It is time, to have another source of on line auctions needed to give eBay some competition.
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Message From:
Fed Up...
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8/20/2007 4:56:13 PM
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Gotta love it. Once again, those who fear a loss in profit will do what they can to keep ignorant America happy. Perhaps these anti-gun people forget that it was an armed society and militias that freed this land from the tyrants of Briton some 200+ years ago, along with two World Wars. Anyone remember what Hitler did when he took over in Germany? He took the guns from the people, so they couldn't fight back! The key to a safe society is a reasonable regulated, armed society. This is what keeps our government in line these days... Just you let them wait and see what Hillary and the democrats are gonna try and do when the Dems rule...... They'll be singing a different tune then! |
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Message From:
Honest American
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8/20/2007 4:54:44 PM
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Folks,
This did it for me...they want to tread on my American freedoms....well then they don't get my hard earned American Dollars.
From this point on I am neither buying nor selling through their site.
BYE! |
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Message From:
Common Sense in Missouri
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8/20/2007 4:35:34 PM
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The key to this crap is simple. For example the word "may" as in we "may" have helped a madman get his weapons for VT and people who "may" have claim$ against us "may" $ue, so we now have to act with a politically correct conscious. And the words "Trust and $afety policy team", that would be the lawyers. After reading the affidavits, the lawyers and defendants (who "may" be personally named) at eBay Inc. have decided to restrict your constitutional rights...which as capitalists is our right. The same people who spray crap about what your rights "may" be are the same one's with the financial means to buy your rights, sell them to the highest bidder, and leave you in the forest holding yourself. So, quit your crying and go buy your guns somewhere else, Ebay guns is closed, get over it and move on! I still know where to buy reasonably priced firearms from people with great seller reputations, do you? If not, check out thegunsource.com. Bunch a whining losers...all of ya! |
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Message From:
Florida gun owner
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8/20/2007 1:39:31 PM
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I read Ebay's response for limiting gun and knife related items from being sold on Ebay and although I don't agree with them on this issue, it is their right in this free country to do this. Just like it's the right of Chick-Fil-A to be closed on Sundays and McDonald's to be open on Sundays. Does this make them anti-American? I don't think so. If a company chooses not sell alcohol in their stores? Is that un-American? No! It is not. It comes down to a personal belief for that person or company and what they choose to do with that belief. I am a proud gun owner, but refuse to shoot the moral wheels out from under Ebay because I don't agree with them on this issue. P.S. For those who need gun parts use the web search engines. There is no limit to what you can find for probably a better deal than you could have gotton on Ebay. Good luck. Florida Gun Owner. |
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Message From:
michael gant
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8/20/2007 1:15:03 PM
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It is up to us. I sell a lot on Ebay but will have no problem closing my accout if this happens. We the consumer made Ebay, and we can be its fall if they so choose. They ban our rights then we ban them. |
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Message From:
russell
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8/20/2007 11:50:11 AM
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EBay you are not responsible for the VTech shooting. You should not let a random act of volence affect the operations of your company.
Thanks
Russell |
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Message From:
Brother In Arms
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8/20/2007 10:08:44 AM
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This is nothing new guys. It is E-Bay's taking a stand for what they believe in that's got your dander up! As gun owners, every day we deal this constant attack on our Second Amendment rights. It's our complacency that allows this. The Second Amendment ensures our freedoms, so we must exercise, and protect this right above all others. Remember this when voting, as well as with where you spend your dollars! Take a stand as Mr. Thompson has challenged you to do! Thank you Mr. Thompson for bringing this to our attention.
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Message From:
Janie
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8/20/2007 9:58:24 AM
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Does Matt Halprin honestly believe that the Virginia Tech shooting would not have happened if a gun related item had not been available on Ebay? If so, Get a grip man and realize yours was NOT the only way.
Guns don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people. And, if stopped from doing it one way, they WILL find another way if Hell Bent on killing someone.
I have been a Democrat for many years after leaving the Republican party, but I will give up my gun when (As Charlton Heston once said) they pry it from my dead hand. I am against assault weapons being used by anyone other than law enforcement.
But, I have a right to be armed with my handgun to defend myself, others and my home, being granted that right by our Forefathers. |
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Message From:
FASTBOAT 558
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8/20/2007 8:18:03 AM
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BLAME IT ON THE EVIL GUN AGAIN! NEVER TAKE RESPONSABILTY YOUR BAD ACTIONS. THIS IS TIPICAL DEMOCRAP CALIFORNIA FINESTEIN, POLOSEE THINKING.HOPE YOU ALL DON'T ELECT THEM NEXT YEAR?
FFL DEALER |
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Message From:
jcanemp
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8/20/2007 8:17:55 AM
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Being recently retired, and a gun collector for more than 40 years, I have spent countless hours over the last two years buying and selling many thousands of dollars worth of gun related accessories on Ebay. It was a hobby, and one I very much enjoyed. It was quite lucrative, too. But no more. Ebay has seen the last penny of my honest, legal, firearm hobby money. Are these guys idiots, or just left wing liberal anti-American wackos? What's next? Knives? Ball bats? How about cars? They are lethal, you know. |
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Message From:
tapewyrm
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8/20/2007 8:04:10 AM
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my mis-trust of Ebay has just been solidified. Time to get some fresh air and go to a yard sale or two. |
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Message From:
Rem708
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8/20/2007 6:41:44 AM
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I am very disapointed in ebays decision to restrict gun part sales because this evil person decides to kill people. They should put the blame the person that committed this evil act and not some a gun part that can not funtion on it's own. I also feel that the Gun Source has a lack of respect for using the words "F**K ebay" they should think twcie before doing something like that. |
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Message From:
Trauma King
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8/19/2007 10:27:55 PM
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What a spineless, worthless little twit! I think you should be awarded the Hypocrate of the year award! Why dont you stand-up and act like a man! Well Matt Halpin you can always get an operation to set things right!
Screw you and your 2 faced company, and you know perfectly well what i am talking about. I bet your mommy still wipes your nose! |
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Message From:
ddfergie
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8/19/2007 6:22:48 PM
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Another "DO-GOODER" Personally I'm sick of these types telling me what's good for me! E-bay we can choose for ourselves. Good bye E-bay! |
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Message From:
Mike 11
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8/19/2007 4:46:13 PM
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It is too bad that a company such as yours would take a anti-gun stand..If you stop and think all the new antigun or new guncontrol laws only effect he law abiding citizens it has no effect on the law breakers ..Bad guys do not buy repair parts of assecories and seldom if ever buy guns from legal outlets..Bad guys buy stolen guns off the street corners from other bad guys..Lets enforce the existing laws I am off track but those are my thoughts |
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Message From:
JUANDOT
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8/19/2007 12:40:40 PM
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AS A LAWENFORCEMENT OFFICER FOR 20 YEARS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND INSTRUCTOR OF FIREARMS,GUNS,PARTS RELATED FOR FIREARMS AND OTHERS ITEMS DONT KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE ARE THE KILLER AND THE LIVERALS WHO ARE STEERING THIS COUNTRY IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.... AND THIS IS MY OPINION AS A PUBLIC SERVER.......THANKS |
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Message From:
ahelplessnun
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8/19/2007 11:03:49 AM
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One thing I do know. Once clueless, always clueless. The only way Ebay will pay attention is if enough people quit E-Baying. I'm done. The only way a company like them would even try this crap is because they ( Ebay ) think theyre untouchable. Well, they are done touching my money. Even if Ebay backs off of this idiotic policy change, I'll not go back. They knew how the backlash would be BEFORE enacting this change. They are just hoping that there wont be TOO much of a loss in revenue. LONG LIVE FREEDOM. DOWN WITH SUBVERSIVES ( Ebay ). |
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Message From:
Zero
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8/19/2007 9:30:13 AM
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Top Glock/Gun Source - thank you for maintaining vigilence and constructing the petition. This issue would have gone unnoticed by many, including myself. Although it is with a substantial degree of reservation that I remove my account from Ebay, I know that not doing so will send no message at all; “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil, is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke (1729-1797)
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Message From:
J-man
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8/19/2007 12:32:30 AM
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I'am not not surprised by this, people always blame the gun and it's never the person's fault it's the guns. Well dumb asses it's the person who pulled the trigger. The gun did not walk into V-tech and shoot all those people. Quit blaming the weapon and start blaming the person who committed the crime.
God bless all those who lost there life's in this terrible murder spree. Ebay you spineless jellyfish! |
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Message From:
DAT
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8/18/2007 11:24:37 PM
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Yea, and no one has ever been stabbed by a knife bought off ebay or had an accident in a car equipped with parts bought off ebay or hurt themselves at the same time they were using sports equipment bought off ebay. WTG ebay, you are now much dumber than I initally thought you were! |
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Message From:
RVN68-70
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8/18/2007 11:16:15 PM
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Buying brass and bullets on eBay has enabled me to better afford my volunteer training of law-enforcement, military, and LEGALLY ARMED civilians. Those days are now over. They obviously don't care that these banned items were much more frequently purchased to enhance public safety than to create havoc. They seem to care for the First Amendment while showing total disrespect for the Second one. There are currently at least four listings for books (one in Spanish) that could be used as a guide to produce silencers. The books, like the recently banned items, are legal but anyone actually using the information in the books would be in violation of Federal and State laws. |
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Message From:
Devlin
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8/18/2007 10:51:18 PM
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I'm sure some kid has probably choked and died from a toy purchase from Ebay. Might as well stop those listings too. And hey, why you are at it, stop listings for video games as they are turning our children into fat slobs. Pull your head out of your a$$ Ebay. |
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Message From:
Alter Ego
on
8/18/2007 10:27:39 PM
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Any company that ignores the 2nd Amendment to the U.S.
Constitution can be called anti-American. |
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Message From:
marko
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8/18/2007 9:34:32 PM
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bye bye ebay.... time to find a permanent alternative |
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Message From:
ExEbayr
on
8/18/2007 9:24:23 PM
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Here is a quote by LTC Dave Grossman from the article
"On Killing", this article is a MUST READ, search it on the web. Quote
“…Denial can be seductive, but it has an insidious side effect. For all the peace of mind deniers think they get by saying it isn’t so, the fall they take when faced with new violence is all the more unsettling.”
Denial is a save-now-pay-later scheme, a contract written entirely in small print, for in the long run, the denying person knows the truth on some level.
Unquote.
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Message From:
DinoA
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8/18/2007 9:18:50 PM
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See ya later eBay!
This is just icing on the cake.
As if it wasn't enough that I had my credit card numbers stolen on your site, this just tops it all off.
Enough is enough.
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Message From:
joebell3844
on
8/18/2007 8:45:57 PM
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To whom this concerns,
I used to do business with ebay, however due to their unscrupulous business practices and charges. Well quite simple, I will never do anything with ebay again. When Americans wake up AND TAKE ECONOMIC ACTIONS against these idiots, then we can be back to reality! A small organization called numbersUSA really put Congress on notice. If someone who is smarter than me can use their model as a plan to stop all of these "leftists" re. communists, socialists and other terms from Hollyweird, then perhaps it will be a deciding venue |
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Message From:
Shadow83
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8/18/2007 8:39:54 PM
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P.S. Any lawyers out there? Let's start a class action discrimination suit!!! |
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Message From:
Shadow83
on
8/18/2007 8:38:23 PM
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Ebay has sucked for a while and now sucks more than ever. It is relatively IMPOSSIBLE to deal with a dispute because they ignore their customers. I have been ripped off many times on ebay and they did nothing to help. I looked for a place to post or give my views on this and there is none. There isn't a section loosely related in their forums so we have basically been silenced.
We need to boycott ebay and any related websites or businesses.
I love how they state, "After learning that some items purchased on eBay may have been used in the tragedy at Virginia Tech in April 2007". The moron could have bought his underwear from ebay and it would fit. |
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Message From:
svt81
on
8/18/2007 7:46:10 PM
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So parts and accessories for recreational sport are no longer allowed to be sold on Ebay, but they are still allowing listings like this one..
http://cgi.ebay.com/LD332-3-BK-24-HOOKAH-SHISHA-HUKA-3-HOSES-NA
RGHILE-PIPE_W0QQitemZ220140442954QQihZ012QQcategoryZ596QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
...of course EVERYONE interested in the item in this listing would only use it for tobacco!! HIPPOCRITS!!!! |
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Message From:
denniso800
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8/18/2007 7:10:37 PM
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Hope this makes everyone "feel" safe......... of course they still sell cars, motorcycles, knives, swords, and other things that kill people.
Guess I'm all done shopping on E-Bay |
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Message From:
cuutter
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8/18/2007 6:53:51 PM
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Not only do we need to stop doing business with E-Bay, but we need to stop with Pay Pal also. Pay Pal has frozen many accounts of persons selling gun related parts. Screw'em all. |
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Message From:
die first
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8/18/2007 6:20:00 PM
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All I know is politicians or anyone elde will have to take my life before they take my right to own a gun.I will never order anything from ebay. pussies. |
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Message From:
Leave more for me
on
8/18/2007 5:15:56 PM
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A business exercises its free market right to either sell or not sell certain items, they are labeled as anti-American. You can't have it both ways. As the writer says "It's their choice to do business as they wish..." and when they choose to do so they are "hell-bent on selling our basic values.." They made a business choice, not a moral choice. And as Americans it is a choice they are permitted to make. To put it any other way is to give in to hysterical ranting and hyperbole that undermines any attempt at a reasonable discussion of the issue. If you were really a true American, you would exercise YOUR RIGHT not to shop there and explain and perhaps try to convince others not to do so. But to call them anti-American, you and your hysterical breed go too far. As a hunter and competition shooter I can guarantee that you will never get my business. And I will try to convince others to do the same. That is my right and exercising it makes me just as American as anyone else. |
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Message From:
venture4
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8/18/2007 5:04:48 PM
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The tradgedy at Virginia Tech can lead us to only one conclusion...Shooting people is much easier when they are law abiding citizens.
Criminals are are less successful when they don't know who is armed.
But don't let a little thing like the TRUTH stop yo Matt Halprin. |
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Message From:
edsotx
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8/18/2007 4:49:54 PM
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This has to be one of the most cowardily, anti-American acts by ebay! As mentioned above, they turn a blind eye to "illegal items" sold on their site, but try to justify themselves for another's cowaridly acts, by banning gun related items! This is so f**king stupid, all legal American gun owners need to stand up to these cowards & call for a boycott of ebay! Let them know how much power & money we possess! |
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Message From:
onebudwiser
on
8/18/2007 3:22:44 PM
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EBay has made their bed now let them lay in it.Law abiding companys are not at fault! they abide by the laws and relatives and people close too these nut jobs who commit these crimes should get them help or report them before they get a chance to do wrong!let ebay go if enough people do the right thing ebay will cease to exist;and those who wish to do business on internet can learn from ebays stupidity |
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Message From:
MAGPOWER
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8/18/2007 3:18:49 PM
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Because of your firearms related and knives also, I,myself,daughter,inlaws and all hunting friend and other relatives are not doing business with E-BAY. Some of us are also moving our mutual funds from your stock. All the local gun dealers now have all our business. Thank you for the start of a Natzi government. |
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Message From:
Thunderchief
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8/18/2007 2:48:15 PM
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I think this is the most disturbing thing that Ebay could have done to help the TREE HUGERS and the left wing liberals. I bet the Clinton's are rolling over in laughter saying, that is just another nitch for us to get more GUN CONTROL. It isn't the law abiding citizen that kills anyway. I have purchased items on EBay and I know there is no way the seller could have sold the item for the price they did without it being "HOT". Ebay do a better job of policing the theives that sell and leave the law abiding citizen along. A single Gun part isn't going to kill anyone. We gun owner's use our gun's for sport and for hunting. You are going to hurt a lot of legal business's with the kind of mind set. All I have to say is I don't need EBAY with a attitude like You are showing Now. |
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Message From:
Aghnis
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8/18/2007 2:37:30 PM
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Ebay is a totally UnAmerican Company with no regard for it's consumers. A short while back they were selling Wolf Pelts, an endangered species with no regard for those who cherish this animal. As a multi gun owner myself, I will avoid any buying from Ebay from this point on. |
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Message From:
Mike
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8/18/2007 1:43:32 PM
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My first reaction is anger. The second reaction is that I will limit if not discontinue the use of eBay. Like the gentleman stated in a previous message; So when are they dicontinuing listing cars and motorcycles? What about swords, knives, etc? The biggest problem I see with this is that the American public really doesn't care if their liberties are taken away. Most of them want to be taken care of anyway. If just .5% of 1% who use eBay and find this insulting discontinued our use of eBay we could make a dramatic impact on their bottomline. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. |
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Message From:
AMBASSADOR
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8/18/2007 1:38:45 PM
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I whole heartedly agree not to use ebay for the reasons afore mentioned reasons.I have used them in the past but I am now saddened at thier cowardly position on gun related items.What happened at V.T. was horrible and should have never happened,Lets all ban automobiles,buses,cabs airplaines and any other type of vehicle that may cause harm to anyone in our society.
While we are banning things that may be deadly or dangerous,lets ban penises because every man has the potential to be a rapist. |
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Message From:
ebaysucks
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8/18/2007 1:01:25 PM
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WTF ebay? Next you'll decide that cars kill thousands of people each year so you should stop selling car parts. I suggest everyone start using www.craigslist.com instead! Besides, it's FREE! |
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Message From:
rimshot
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8/18/2007 12:57:50 PM
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Egay can kiss my hairy hillbilly butt. I wouldn't buy $100 bills for 2 cents over their site after this move. I have made firearms-related purchases through egay before...but you can bet it won't happen again. |
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Message From:
hermanator/arman-16
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8/18/2007 12:33:12 PM
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It is sad that EBAY(should be GAY-BAY) has done it again! I don't think that they it on straight! It is as been done before, an operator in the bush knowsa what has to be done! |
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Message From:
Ranger Bob
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8/18/2007 12:08:38 PM
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Thanks for the heads up. I will no longer do ANY business with ebay.com. As you said - these are "Constitutionally protected" items. I agree with individual freedom, and I believe in allowing the market to correct itself. If ebay misses the revenue produced from our patronizing their site - then they may decide to reverse their decision - if not, I certainly will not miss them! I'll sign the petition - but I am also sending a message direct to e-bay. To all who read this post - please note the operative words in the quote: “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” TRIUMPH OF EVIL and GOOD MEN DO NOTHING. or as Tuco said: "If you are going to shoot - shoot, don't talk!" |
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Message From:
JD - The All Knowing Redneck
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8/18/2007 12:08:21 PM
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FYI
1. EBay owns PayPal
2. Google won’t sell their "Google Ads" to any website that sells firearms.
3. Google won’t allow a "Google Ad" to contain firearms.
4. Google is starting to block search access to any site that has words related to firearms.
5. DHL Carrier refuses all guns;their conscience won't allow spreading violence.
6. GW's OSHA is updating a reg to stop all ammo transport and storage.
7. GW's AG is co-sponsoring a bill to allow himself to declare anyone "suspect", where a "suspect" citizen loses all firearms rights.
8. Dems are sponsoring a bill to 1. Outlaw all "non-sporting arms" 2. Give the AG sole authority to define "non-sporting" 3. Predefine ALL semi-auto handguns, rifles and shotguns as "non-sporting", ALL.
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Message From:
deucedog
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8/18/2007 11:09:32 AM
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there are many ways to save lots of money on just about anything, besides E-Bay go and support your local Rescue missions and homeless shelters most all have thrift stores and alot are sponsored by local retailers and have new clothes- household items-furniture-about anything you need |
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Message From:
HSTS1
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8/18/2007 10:54:14 AM
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I am looking for alternatives to Ebay soley based on the facts concerning this important issue. Ebay is attacking my constitutional rights having to do with my right to have a "gun" and thus my right to purchase what I may need to maintain it/them. Ebay further has chosen to attack other rights I have to buy from or sell to who ever is a law abiding and free market buisiness. I am a former Police Officer and don't understand why I have to pay the price of restrictions on me for the actions of criminals. Ebay should instead focus its energy on helping to maintain our blood paid for constitutional rights to pursue life, liberty, happiness and a free market. |
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Message From:
on
8/18/2007 10:53:43 AM
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I am looking for alternatives to Ebay soley based on the facts concerning this important issue. Ebay is attacking my constitutional rights having to do with my right to have a "gun" and thus my right to purchase what I may need to maintain it/them. Ebay further has chosen to attack other rights I have to buy from or sell to who ever is a law abiding and free market buisiness. I am a former Police Officer and don't understand why I have to pay the price of restrictions on me for the actions of criminals. Ebay should instead focus its energy on helping to maintain our blood paid for constitutional rights to pursue life, liberty, happiness and a free market.
Where is their socalled morals when it comes to the Porno stuff that is on ebay. |
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Message From:
Randyj
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8/18/2007 10:43:09 AM
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This just confirms what I have believed for the past several years. EBAY is probably owned by a person or group from Europe or Asia! They are doing everything possible to undermine the American way of life ! Fight Back !!
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Message From:
Dude
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8/18/2007 10:37:29 AM
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Let everyone know E-Bay's stand and just don't do business with them! |
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Message From:
LeeM
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8/18/2007 10:29:53 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that eBay has taken the easy way out due to a popular misconception about guns. I feel very badly about all the companies and individuals that sell a majority of their goods and make a living with online retailing. This will be hard for them and limits free trade. I recommend gunbroker and guns america improve their sites and ramp up for the extra business. I never have done business with ebay and will continue this policy. |
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Message From:
RickL
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8/18/2007 10:27:15 AM
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I regret that Ebay has chosen this direction to protect their Stock value. I sincerely hope that we as law abiding citizens can hurt them in their "pocketbook". Just like PayPal, don't do business with them. Get their attention!!!
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Message From:
tsnack
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8/18/2007 10:26:41 AM
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Here are the major ebay institution investors and top mutual funds heavily invested in ebay. Together they own 66% of eBay. Leave them all now if you are serious about protecting our 2nd amendment.
Institutions:
LEGG MASON INC
FMR CORPORATION (FIDELITY MANAGEMENT & RESEARCH CORP
CAPITAL RESEARCH AND MANAGEMENT COMPANY
Barclays Global Investors UK Holdings Ltd
DODGE & COX INC
VANGUARD GROUP, INC. (THE)
STATE STREET CORPORATION
OPPENHEIMER FUNDS, INC.
PRICE (T.ROWE) ASSOCIATES
MORGAN STANLEY
TOP MUTUAL FUND HOLDERS
Holder Shares % Out Value* Reported
GROWTH FUND OF AMERICA INC
DODGE & COX STOCK FUND
AMCAP FUND
VANGUARD 500 INDEX FUND
OPPENHEIMER GLOBAL FUND
FIDELITY GROWTH & INCOME PORTFOLIO
COLLEGE RETIREMENT EQUITIES FUND-STOCK ACCOUNT
FIDELITY ADVISOR GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES FUND
VANGUARD/PRIMECAP FUND
VANGUARD TOTAL STOCK MARKET INDEX FUND
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Message From:
tsnack
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8/18/2007 10:18:03 AM
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Don''t talk about it, immediately stop investing in ebay stock and more importantly...stop using Paypal ebay's bank!!!! Also be sure to leave any mutual fund that invests in eBay. You will see how quickly the money grubbers change their tune. On the other hand, this should be good for firearm dealers who have to compete with the ebay fiasco. |
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Message From:
old soilder
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8/18/2007 10:08:02 AM
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I agree on e-bay. I once bought a product through them that was faulty and they refused to do anything about it. so i have not and will not purchase anythig through them again. i also agree with you in the gun parts ban. we have a lot of kooks in this country that want to take our gun away. over my dead body only.......... |
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Message From:
old soilder
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8/18/2007 10:07:45 AM
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I agree on e-bay. I once bought a product through them that was faulty and they refused to do anything about it. so i have not and will not purchase anythig through them again. i also agree with you in the gun parts ban. we have a lot of kooks in this country that want to takke our gun away. over my dead body only.......... |
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Message From:
e-bayless
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8/18/2007 9:27:29 AM
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When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns! Think about it! E-bay has done nothing but tick a bunch of people off, there will always be a market and someone willing to sell guns and parts. Their loss will be someone else's gain! Wish they would consider banning half the crap they sell that is stolen, from a foreign country ect. Hey lets help the terriorist out why dont we! |
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Message From:
moose4031
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8/18/2007 9:06:30 AM
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Thanks for taking the stand that you have! I've made over 100 purchases on e-bay (all positive feedback) and am disappointed by their decision. I've pledged to avoid using them again. There are other sources available.
Again, thank you. |
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Message From:
PennyPincher
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8/18/2007 9:05:47 AM
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While no "store" or "auction house" should be made to sell an item they don't wish to sell, this policy just shows how yellow bellied eBay's policy makers are. No problem if you are running a "Nigerian" scam on eBay but don't try to sell a legal item in a legal manner. I believe in and support the Second Amendment and I will no longer do business with eBay. |
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Message From:
gambler813
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8/18/2007 8:56:03 AM
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As an AMERICAN business EBAY has every right to choose what they will and will not sell.... However, this business decision may come back to haunt them... They have forgotten that without the use of FIREARMS there would be no AMERICA..
We would still belong to England... In my opinion as a gun owner and a supporter of the 2nd Amendment i think this is a really bad business decision.... |
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Message From:
R & R Sporting Goods
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8/18/2007 8:54:31 AM
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I actually spend(did spend)thousands of US Dollars on eBay. Never again will they receive a single cent from me.
You must stand up for what you believe or you do not amount to squat!
I agree with an above statement. Someone needs to start another multi-million dollar business like eBay and cater to all good Americans needs. |
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Message From:
spatin
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8/18/2007 8:47:29 AM
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I think the best thing that could come of this would be someone who can start up an eBay style business that would compete with eBay and would market anything anyone wants to sell or buy, without any restrictions at all. As for me, I'm done with eBay. I will cancel my account with eBay and with Paypal. I hope the millions of gun owners out there will do the same. |
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Message From:
dc1
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8/18/2007 8:29:47 AM
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What if he used a sword to masquer all those people, would they ban all sharp objects on ebay as well? Did they ever think that terrorist organizations might use ebay to sell stolen goods and fund there operations? We should ban everything then. The scared, tuck tail tactics never work. They just make the 90% of the sheep, I mean people in the world feel like ebay is making the world safe. Oh well, adding a new banned domain to the corporate network. |
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Message From:
bluemistered1
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8/18/2007 8:23:23 AM
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There are to many Gun Sources out there to purchase gun related items from so that I don't have to bother with e bay. I'm done with them. Will by nothing through ebay again. |
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Message From:
luangtom
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8/18/2007 8:08:31 AM
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E-Bay and Pay-Pal are off the list of businesses dealt with.
Politically-correct, NOT. Get real, E-Bay..... |
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Message From:
not-a-bad-guy
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8/18/2007 7:53:57 AM
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It gets a little sickening that every time something happens all guns are held responsible. Lets get real. Enough. Laws are in place and if someone goes nuts hold them accountable. I too will cease to use e-bay. |
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Message From:
JimM
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8/18/2007 7:53:18 AM
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I think that ebay should reverse their decision to prohit the sales of these items since they are not illegal to sell. I feel that having an ebay account and be willing to shut it down, will send a clearer message that a lot of other things. Hit them in the pocket book. |
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Message From:
MS
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8/18/2007 7:28:10 AM
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Last month my Ebay account was fraudulanty used by someone out of the country to purchase five items. After 8 live "chatting" sessions with their security and trust department, it is still unresolved. Obviously Ebay is more concerned with appearing to promote "safety" to the media than actually protecting its members. I have cancelled my account forever! |
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Message From:
CommonSense
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8/18/2007 7:25:57 AM
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I AGREE WITH MATT!! I had a friend who was killed by a drunk driver. The driver purchased his tires on E-Bay. E-Bay should ban all tires, wheels, lug nuts, hub caps and air valves. (and obviously all toy and big wheel tires and accessories, as well as any round items that may resemble tires or wheels). Furthermore, the driver was at a house party drinking mixed drinks from glasses purchased on E-Bay. E-Bay should ban all glasses, stirrers, ice cube trays and anything that may be able to contain liquid. Think of all the lives we could save! |
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Message From:
Montana
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8/18/2007 7:12:44 AM
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Due to the illegal sale of stolen items on E-Bay, I never have and never will, do business on E-Bay |
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Message From:
VegasCCW
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8/18/2007 6:53:30 AM
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I stopped using Ebay several years ago due to me finding counterfeit Items being sold on there manufactured in both China nd N Korea and sold from those Countries. I made Ebay aware of the issue and to date they haven't stopped taking these types of listings. How they can refuse legally sold items in the USA for the USA is beyond my understanding. To say they are being moral with their choices shows just how UN-American they are being. Counterfeiting name brands in South East Asia is big Business and hurts our American Companies and our economy. I hope everyone reading this stops doing any type of business on eBay be it selling or buying. Find another auction on the Internet to do business with. |
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Message From:
Scott
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8/18/2007 6:17:47 AM
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Why not ban all hunting & fishing supplies? We would not want Matt Halpin to lose any sleep over all the fish & game caught & killed for food. What about the 2nd amendment?
Guns don't kill people! Does this mean that Matt Halpin will refuse to sell any items to our military forces that protect out country? Is there a ban on toy guns too? |
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Message From:
mtman69
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8/18/2007 6:04:01 AM
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E-Bay the coompany that sells left wings only |
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Message From:
army_eod
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8/18/2007 5:07:34 AM
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I don't use eBay much anyway and now I am totally boycotting them. Remember that they also own PayPal. So boycott them as well. |
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Message From:
Blast
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8/18/2007 4:38:39 AM
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We have the same problem here in Germany.
Ebay doesn't give a shit for hunters, sport shooters, LE personell or people willing to protect themselves.
Use your power as customer and don't support such behavior!
Here we use www.eGun.de for all weapon related items.
Boycott Ebay - Support plattforms like eGun.de
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Message From:
Justacop
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8/18/2007 2:29:12 AM
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While I have been less than satisfied with some of the interactions I have had with Ebay I urge you all to remember a simple FACT. This is America and Ebay, like any other company, has a legitimate right to trade in items of their choice. Instead of wasting energy condemning a company that has made a business decision it would, in my opinion, be more valuable to either start a company that provides the items you are seeking or simply locate another company already in existence. I am sure Ebay couldn't care less about you or I and the feeling is mutual. |
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Message From:
Brad
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8/18/2007 2:16:33 AM
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Yet another bleeding heart Liberal P.O.S that thinks guns run around killing people all by their legless little selves!! Im waiting for a comment from that Communist Clinton on how this will save the United States from the aweful guns that kill people!! Shove it up your a$$ Ebay!! |
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Message From:
onmyoji
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8/18/2007 2:06:26 AM
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ebay = Anti-U.S.A.
Most of the ebay sellers are out of country or the products are not U.S. made.
Did ebay ban all Chinese products because they may be harmful? No.
I even bet some of the auctions have been used to fund terrorists, I guess ebay should stop using money as it can fund terrorists and kill people.
To be honest any object can kill a person so ebay should pull up stakes & close down.
The actions of the few should not dictate or effect the rights of the many.
Go ahead ebay & shoot yourself in the foot, Good Job.
I have done tens of thousands of dollars of business on ebay as a seller & buyer of the items just banned.
Now I guess I will need to bring my money to those who want it.
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Message From:
farnkos72
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8/18/2007 12:18:19 AM
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Part of being an private American company is the right to refuse to service a customer without giving a reason at all. I am a private business owner and although I rarely exercise the right, I can ask anyone to leave and ban them from the premises if I so choose. That is a right that I have as a private American business owner. So eBay is only exercising their American rights and they are by no means writing any laws regarding the purchase of firearms or parts. This niche will be filled by someone and yours and other online business will continue. Kudos to the company that can best capitalize on eBay's loss of business and God Bless America and all of her Citizens! |
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Message From:
DSTIEBS
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8/18/2007 12:17:56 AM
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I stopped doing business with Ebay when my Identity was stolen from Ebay. They got my card numbers and cleaned me out. They did not tell the customers because of the chance of being sued. At Christmas time people are robbed and shot over the top wanted toys at stores that are put on Ebay and sold for many times the retail price but Ebay won't put a stop to this practice. They worry more about the gun accessories and trying to show the public they are the good guys. They are Hypocrites for doing so. Dave. |
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